Key and Peele – Eyes are Wendells to the soul

Full transcript of Key and Peele – Eyes are Wendells to the soul.

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1:25KT: Howdy, friends and lovers. Welcome back to the For Your Reference podcast. We got your host, KT.

1:25Oti: And Oti.

1:25KT: And grab your practice peaches and limited edition mint condition hats because we've been invited to the pony show.

1:25Oti: Woo hoo. Throw some couscous on it.

1:25KT: Yes. Bring along the couscous because this week, we are covering the sketch show Key and Peele. Mhmm. Mhmm. And this is Primanoxus territory, Oti. This is the first time that we've covered a sketch show on the For Your Reference podcast.

1:25Oti: It is.

1:58KT: So I guess maybe some graces for us on however this discussion goes. You know, we we talk about, like, South Park, for example, has, like, seventeen, eighteen, maybe even twenty seasons, and we wonder how we would even be able to discuss that in a format. But if you have been a purveyor of the For Your Reference household, more often than not, we will make a Key and Peele reference. I'm pretty sure we just did it in the Perry Mason episode and how that relates, guess you'll see. But we definitely definitely wanted to lay out accolades

2:33KT: to Key and Peele and everything that the show was. Obviously, we're going to get into the stats. This isn't the first time that we've covered Jordan Peele. Obviously, think our first episode was Get Out that we had a Jordan Peele. And then we also covered Us as well. So the creators, we had Jordan Peele, Keegan-Michael Key. It ran from 2012 to twenty fifteen on the comedy channel. And it was a delicious time. Key and Peele won a Peabody Award, two Primetime Emmys, and then been nominated for various other categories.

3:09KT: Obviously, are sketches we're going to talk about, but one of the highlights was Keegan-Michael Key playing Luther as a translator for the official Obama. So

3:09Oti: The official Obama.

3:09KT: Yeah. The official not the Oti Obama. Mhmm. One of these days maybe. So we wondered how we would cover it in this sort format, but let's get into first impressions. It might be cute for us to just talk about our specific favorite sketches and then we'll just dive in slap ass all the way through the sketches. So let's talk about first impressions, Oti.

3:48KT: So Key and Peele, both of them, it's kind of like a spiritual sort of spin off because they were on MADtv as well. They're not new to improv or comedy. So I guess feel free to give any sort of inklings of whether you came across these fellas before and just how you felt generally about Key and Peele. And I guess even another point would be,

4:11KT: does it still stand the test of time?

4:11Oti: Cool. I came across some of this stuff like this super super popular skits on YouTube. Uh-huh. And I really didn't think too much about them. Like, didn't try to consume and see, oh, these guys are funny. Let me try and see what where this was from. Mhmm. Didn't really bother until

4:31Oti: KT came into the picture and

4:31KT: Hey. Hey.

4:31Oti: She was going on about Key and Peele. She made us watch it, and it was one of those experiences where it's been such a long time since I watched sketch show. I think one of the last ones was the Chappelle Show, and that was such a long time ago. Yeah. So I didn't have a lot of patience. And I think the first season,

4:54Oti: we had I was like, oh, I was dragging my feet, but after staying through it, and I just came to love them. I came to love what they do. We've rewatched it again, I think, quite recently on Stan. Yeah. It's just amazing.

5:08KT: Well, I I guess the interesting thing is and cause we've never done a sketch show, I'm going to, you know, just highlight it here. Sketch shows in general, you know, the the highs are the highest of highs and the lows are very, very low. And I guess you know even the best sort of sketch shows still have you know misses among the hits right and obviously Key and Peele wasn't immune to that But then again, I guess it is subjective and we'll talk about our sketches and why we find them particularly

5:47KT: funny. But I guess sketch shows in general for me, I'm not expecting to be wowed every time I watch a sketch. Because I think you're setting yourself up for failure. You know, whether that's going to be a formula that people can adopt and thrive in, I just don't expect like with SNL, for example, most recently with A Black Lady Sketch Show, also Astronomy Club, You know, there are some very, very strong sketches that deserve a lot of our attention. And then there are some sketches that, you know, they they feel like,

6:19KT: if I may reference Kelly Rowland, The Seat Filler. Some of them are sketch fillers, if you'll pardon the pun. So in that sort of sense, I am quite forgiving, which is very surprising because I'm not very forgiving when we watch shit. But usually when it comes to sketches, I'm very forgiving. In the lead up to this episode, instead of watching full episodes, we kind of just watched the sketches that we wanted to watch. And I think that's the most effective way to do Mhmm. Like you just because then you remember it more fondly

6:52KT: and then you have the pussy on the chain wax for example. Yeah. If you are American and that phrase actually took off, please let us know because I really don't feel like people were saying pussy on the chain wax, at least in my circles anyway.

7:08Oti: Not in mine either.

7:10KT: So let's so both of us have chosen our absolute absolute two favorite sketches in Key and Peele. Obviously, there are way way too many. Even the list we have, there are some that are missing. But we just if we only had to have two sketches and then all of them disappeared but we'll still talk about them, what were they? And I want us to discuss them. Do you wanna do yours, yours, mine, mine? Or do you wanna do yours, mine, yours, mine?

7:10Oti: Yours, mine, yours, mine.

7:10KT: Sounds like a Friday night, Oti. Mhmm.

7:46KT: Okay. So my favorite sketch is it's not to I I I actually don't know if it's a popular one or if it comes completely to your mind when you think about Key and Peele. I think the actual sketch is called Insult Comic. And this is where we have Keegan-Michael Key in like a laugh factory sort of manager scenario. And he's, you know, he's he's getting the audience ready. He's getting them primed. You know, he's making fun of them. We have our lovely fellow that plays Richard Jewell. He's

8:23KT: in there and he gets made fun of for being fat. There's a lady with some big ass titties. But next to the Tiggo Bitties is Jordan Peele's character and he's a burn victim. Mhmm. And the reason why I love this sketch so fucking much is because it really denotes to our egregious approach and our salaciousness for vulgar and inappropriate sort of humor. You know, it's easy to laugh at someone that's fat. Hopefully that's not triggering, but it is the go to,

9:00KT: you know, thing to make fun of and it's okay to make fun of. Yeah. There was also overall sort of humor. Yeah. The low brow definitely. And then there's there's also the guy that's there alone and Keegan makes a joke that, you know, just like the date left him. So, you know, there are some things that, you know, even though it can be hurtful, there are some things that people can joke about and it not be a problem. Mhmm. However, in Jordan Peele's character being a burn victim,

9:28KT: it was quite clear that you weren't going to make fun of him. Right? And I think one of the first jokes that Keegan makes is that he's wearing a pink shirt. Where did he get it from? Queertshirts.com. And then he and then Jordan, like, revealed it and he actually had a ribbon and it was for breast cancer. That's awareness. And then he's like, but I am gay though.

9:50KT: And he kept, pushing him. He's like, do it. I can handle it. I can handle it. And Keegan says something to the effect of, oh, I don't wanna make fun of you. I don't want you to come and scare me in my dreams. And, you know, it's like, I'm not I'm not a stand up comedian as much as I try but you know that once you get that joke you just can't leave it alone so even though the audience wasn't receptive to it he kept going and he's like Freddy Krueger.

10:21KT: He kept pushing into the jokes and then you have Jordan Peele's character start to cry. Right? And he also put the device to his neck so you could hear him cry as well. Everyone is, like, completely booing. Keegan is like, how do you know he's even crying? And I love the way he presses Jordan presses it against his throat and he's like, I thought I could handle it, but I can't. The tears the tears burst. They're the whole.

11:01KT: I I guess me saying that this is my most favorite sketch denotes to how I'm a shit person.

11:01Oti: Yep.

11:01KT: But it's it's it's that salacious, you know, forbidden sort of things that you're not supposed to find funny. And, you know, in that sense, not to say that Keegan's character was provoked, but it's that whole sphere of comedy. You know? What can be said? What can't be said? When is it okay? When is it not okay? And without a wankery podcast,

11:33KT: they were able to capture that in that sketch. And that's why it's hands down my favorite Key and Peele sketch.

11:41Oti: Fair enough. Wow. Yep. That that was definitely a good one. We're starting off strong. For me, I think I went of course, they're, like, really popular, hilarious ones out there. Mhmm. You know? But for me, it always comes down to frame of reference. Oh, if you'll pardon the reference. And and and one of the things I think my two are the first one is hats. Okay. That's where Keegan buys a hat and

12:10Oti: it has it has all the sort of stickers and the tags still on. Mhmm. And when I saw that, I think I knew exactly where that was going because that was my fucking life growing up. I didn't I didn't even understand it. I laughed so hard. I laughed so hard. Yeah. And then we have Jordan coming back the next day, and he's not even removed the hat from the bag. Still has all the tags in the bag. You know, it was it was bloody fucking hilarious.

12:41Oti: But nah, Keegan wasn't going to be outdone. Came back the next day, had the display

12:41KT: The display.

12:41Oti: Case Yeah. The display case over his head Mhmm. With the hat still there, you know, mint condition, only to see Jordan with I'm sorry. Only to have Jordan have a woman in top of his head Mhmm. Sewing the fucking hat. You can't get any mints than that, can you?

13:10KT: And you you do you do mention frame of reference, and that's very important because,

13:16KT: you know, like like I mentioned earlier, there are some misses in sketch shows. And for me, that that that was a miss because it completely went over my head. And why when I eventually watched Key and Peele with you, you could not control yourself.

13:16Oti: No. I couldn't.

13:16KT: And I I actually I I still don't to this day. We even mentioned it. I forgot which podcast episode it was. But we mentioned this particular sketch and how much you love it. And, again, it's something that I will never understand.

13:46Oti: It was the thing. Like, people kids would do that. And, you know, in our adolescent years when we didn't know any better Uh-huh. And kids will fucking do this, and it'll be the in thing. It'll be the in thing. You know? You have to stand out out there, so you do that shit, which was pretty hilarious for me. I was like, I just wanted to forward this clip to every one of my friends and tell them, hey, remember?

14:16KT: Good times. You know what is also good times, Oti? Mhmm. My my top two sketch and it is the cunnilingus class. Mhmm. Because male or female, you need to know how to go down on your bitches. Right? Mhmm. And I absolutely absolutely love this sketch. And I definitely feel like, you know, there's some timely truths. Grab a peach and practice friends and lovers. The the the part that I love the most about the sketch is when they're talking about, you know, if you don't know what you're doing, just go with the alphabet.

14:53KT: A, b, c. I think that I think ASMR that is shit right there. Yeah. Earned our explicit ASMR tag Mhmm. In this episode. And the flap factory. Oh, wow. Flaps are everywhere. I didn't care for the last part where it was secretly two women. I don't know. It it kind of the the whole part of the joke was just them in general talking about how to care for women sexually Mhmm. As Wendell would say. And I I absolutely love it because,

15:30KT: you know, a a lot of the best parts of comedy is where it's clever, but it's also true Mhmm. In many senses. So I don't think Jordan and Keegan need any help in that department, to be perfectly honest. True. But I love it. They also had a follow-up sketch about what you don't know about women in their periods as well. Effective. I liked it. But the cunnilingus class

15:53KT: is right where my Daddywood sheriff heart is.

15:53Oti: You know what the funniest thing is though? Mhmm. To to reference

16:00Oti: you've watched Rome. Right?

16:00KT: Yes. And if I've watched Rome with you.

16:05Oti: Well, I well, you're watching it. It was my, like, Tadri watch. So just to be clear. You had, like, Titus Pullo teach tell Lucius Vorenus that, oh, you know, there's a butter in the woman when you start licking it or whatever. And then Lucius is like, oh, how do you know? Have you slept with my woman? And you had this sort of cute experience where Titus

16:32Oti: Pullo is teaching Vorenus all this sort of shit how to pleasure his wife, and he was such he was so cute. So that's one of my favorite sort of cunnilingus moments on TV.

16:43KT: How dare you? But also, thank you.

16:43Oti: You're welcome.

16:43KT: I never knew I could be out cunnilingus out. Oh,

16:55Oti: keeping a record book. Yikes. Alright. My second one, again, reference Mhmm. Is key here. Mhmm. And it has to be And deal. It has to be Mr. T. You have this super eighties commercial, and then you have these kids making fun of each other's appearances. And then you have Mr. T popping out of nowhere saying Never make fun of another person's haircut.

16:55KT: Actually,

17:24KT: while we're on the topic, never make fun of another man's podcast. True. True.

17:32Oti: So I picked this because Mhmm. Growing up, I was the biggest Mr. T fan.

17:40KT: I was Is there is there an Oti photo

17:43Oti: There's an floating Oti haircut with miss there's an Oti Mr. T haircut out there.

17:43KT: Is a lot to promise considering no one knows what you look like.

17:43Oti: But it was my thing. Forget A-Team. It was more T&T.

17:57Oti: T&T was my shit. So when you have they're referencing my shit right here. Uh-huh. And Key and Peele just took me to Nirvana, mate. But, wow. Like, it was just one of those things that took me back to my childhood, and I was laughing my ass off. Because we had the those like, all those commercials of Mr. T as well, and, oh my god, favorite thing in the world.

17:57KT: Did the action figures make it to Kenya?

17:57Oti: Maybe they did. I'm not sure,

18:23Oti: but that did not stop Oti from enjoying his Mr. T.

18:23KT: Maybe you were on the naughty list, not the nice list.

18:23Oti: Probably.

18:32KT: You know, if you if you wanna play how old is KT, this was kind of before my time. So

18:32Oti: It doesn't matter. It was

18:32KT: No. My point my point is, like, I I know who Mr. T is, but I don't get the splooshy, you know, you're not you when you're hungry sort of sensation because I never grew up with Mr. T. He he already grew up without me. So in this Key and Peele sketch, I appreciated the aesthetics. I was like, okay, I can recognize that this is Mr. T. But in particular sketch,

19:04KT: what I really enjoyed about it is it was working up to the joke, Right? So you had these mini jokes about never make fun of a person's name or a person's clothes. And then you have the two kids being like, let's try drugs. Nowhere to be seen. Yeah. Like and I think they also said, let's try alcohol. Let's drink all the alcohol now. Yeah. And I was like, well, your hair is dumb. And that's what so it's all very self serving. And then it becomes very sad.

19:38KT: Too sad. It it becomes very sad on layers that kids fortunately do not understand. But unfortunately, as adults, we've all kind of been there maybe one too many times

19:38Oti: For sure.

19:38KT: In our lives. But those are our top two Key and Peele sketches. Feel free to let us know what your top two sketches are of Key and Peele. We're obviously going to be covering a lot more, but those are definitely our top two. Like, I had I had a thought about it. It's not on the list, but I do wanna just give a

20:16KT: honorary mention to I don't know what the sketch was called, but Jordan was playing like this old, like, sort of martial artist. And Keegan was coming to him for intel, and he thought that he was coming out of retirement back from the force. And he kept urging, like, you know, shoot shoot this bullet. I can catch the bullet. I think that like, I think that's my sort of humor. Just ridiculous nonsense. Also, another sketch that I don't have on this list here is

20:51KT: Keegan's character. It's it's just a normal sort of modern setting with friends at Keegan's house, and he recently broke up with his girlfriend. And he got really upset, and he went to the other room, but he still had the Wii remote in his hand. So when he went to the bedroom, you could see everything. It's up to him picking up his ex girlfriend's photo and him laying on the bed and breaking off to it. It's I think it's it's just those sorts of sketches that really, really

21:23KT: get my Splooshies going.

21:23Oti: Oh, aren't those one that we usually reference quite a lot, at least maybe not in the podcast, but on our day to day sort of life?

21:23KT: We have our life outside of the podcast. I think you've broken the matrix, Oti.

21:23Oti: Pretty much. Where you have Jordan having to jack off in a crime scene to solve a crime solve a

21:23KT: Yes.

21:41KT: The detective. Yeah. How is this not on our list?

21:41Oti: No idea.

21:41KT: I think I'm just think I'm just so used to witnessing that. I forget it's a Key and Peele sketch and not our day to day life. Oh, sorry about that. So let's go through the list of sketches to discuss, to analyze, dissect, whatever you wanna do, my love. We are going to start off with the most sexual of sketches. Pretty much all of Wendell Sanders' sketches. Sexual and sad. Isn't that our brand Oti?

22:16Oti: Yeah.

22:16KT: You

22:17KT: can't achieve one without the other, my love. Wendell is first introduced to us when he's ordering a pizza. He falls in love with the idea of a figurine, but it yes. Yes. It can be very easy. And it he Wendell definitely reminded me of the comic book guy, worst podcast ever. Mhmm. He he reminded me of that guy and maybe even H. Jon Benjamin's character in Family Guy as well. It was very easy. It was a very easy sort of archetype to have, but they really rounded

22:57KT: her her sorry. That's a very cheap pun. But they really rounded Wendell's character in that vulnerability. Because it always starts off very sexually, and then it gets to a point of realness. And we see that in the sketch where he's calling to report a broken Superman bit and he's laying his bed. And then progressively throughout the sketch with Keegan as like a telemarketer, he starts talking about, oh, your son's 15 years old. He's a bit too old for the Superman, isn't he? Don't worry. When he starts talking to girls, he'll It

23:39KT: just and then and then he named his son Stimpy.

23:42Oti: Stimpy?

23:42KT: Stimpy.

23:45KT: I'm very excited for the new reboot slash remake of Ren and Stimpy.

23:45Oti: I'm not.

23:45KT: That is that is my time. Ren and Stimpy, Angry Beavers, all of the weird fucking cartoons. That's that that that's me. That's where I am.

23:45Oti: All that, and you never watched Care Bears. It invalidates everything, babe.

23:45KT: Care Bears was way before my time.

23:45Oti: It doesn't matter.

23:45KT: So Care Bears is relevant to Key and Peele because one of the sketches, I think it's called

24:14KT: not to laugh when your friend is crying. Yeah. And it's like the head sort of gang leader and his friend died and he's talking about them as kids and being Care Bears. Yeah. So

24:26Oti: yeah. Dude, come on. Care Bears came out in, like, the early eighties. It doesn't matter. These things are big in syndication for ages. It aired every single day. Yeah. Same with the Smurfs. Like, your childhood must have just been Ren and Stimpy. Come on now. Can't even compare.

24:26KT: They just look like little blue grandpas. I don't

24:48KT: don't see the appeal in Smurfs.

24:52Oti: Alright.

24:53KT: You keep your frame of reference out of mine, sir.

24:57Oti: We'll do that.

24:58KT: And then Wendell obviously has that, like, mythical music video where he's, like, on a horse and he's got a sword as well. I fucking love Wendell. He is very precious. And to be perfectly honest, his lifestyle isn't much different than ours. No. If we didn't have our dog, we probably wouldn't leave the house to be perfectly honest. Let's move on to another sketch, which is probably even if you've never heard of Key and Peele, you've probably heard A-A-Ron before. Mhmm. So we have Mr. Garvey as a substitute teacher.

25:39Oti: Yeah. Like, that's one of the most popular ones, I think. It's hilarious. Did you ever have substitute teachers in your school?

25:39KT: Yes. And I was a I was a shitbag to the substitute

25:39Oti: teachers never got sick. They were there every single fucking day, man.

25:39KT: Really?

25:56KT: So the but the concept of substitute teachers exist. Okay. I get it. Yeah. No. But I'm saying in Kenya, did substitute teachers exist?

25:56Oti: No.

25:56KT: Really.

25:56Oti: If the teacher isn't there, you just learn you learn maths. The maths teacher was always there. The math teacher was always there.

26:12Oti: It'd be your favorite subject. You might be learning you might be doing history or the history teacher isn't there. And then next minute, oh, you you get told, oh, the history teacher is not coming today. You you start celebrating,

26:24Oti: but that gets cut short pretty quickly when the math teacher just enters. Anytime there's no lesson, the it's it's it's a math class.

26:24KT: Actually, this is a conspiracy because I feel like math teachers never went on leave. No. It it has to be something out there. Right? Even one of my math teachers in high school, they had a baby and they came back, like, the next day from they're like, take they took no maternity leave. So yeah. So Mr. Garvey is probably the most popular Key and Peele sketch, I would say.

26:55KT: Know, even people in the workplace that don't watch Key and Peele, they'll talk about A-A-Ron. J-Quellin. J-Quellin and Balakay. Because it's like you you hear the first joke and it's funny and then it continues to be funny, but obviously it doesn't hit hard as the first, you know, sort of instance of this or the cadence of it. And then you have Timothy. Present. I think it's in the first I think it's in the first Mr. Garvey sketch

27:23KT: where he gets really, really angry and he tells one of the kids to go to O'Shannessy's office. And that's that was just the cream on top of my pie. Like, it was delightful. If we're talking about substitute teachers, I do wanna give a quick shout out to Mr. Nostrand. So, you know, it it's playing off of that, you know, teacher. Well, I guess it's the opposite. So Mr. Garvey came from, like, inner city kids that would pretty much chew you out if they smelt weakness. Right? Yeah. So you have Mr. Nostrand coming into

27:56KT: coming into the classroom, and he's writing his name. And he's, you know, he's being really good about it, better than Cartman, you know, when he was a substitute teacher in South Park. But, you know, he's talking about how he doesn't take any shit. And then he drops his chalk and fart. Because it's like, literally, you need to take your bag and leave. There is no coming back from that. Like,

28:23Oti: I I I found it funny. But in my school, when a teacher farted, you you would not even dare say anything. Giggle at your own peril.

28:35KT: What? Like

28:35Oti: There are times that remember teachers farting, though. No. There are times that the teachers just fart.

28:35KT: Or accidentally.

28:35Oti: Accidentally, of course. But but you'd just be there

28:45Oti: pretending, forcing yourself as if, yeah, didn't hear that. Can't smell that. Nope. It's not happening.

28:53KT: I think there's more to your schooling we need to hear about, Oti, but we'll leave that for a minute.

28:53Oti: It's part of instilling discipline. You know?

28:53KT: I don't discipline. Discipline. That's a Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt reference. I I honestly don't remember. I can't recall teachers farting in the once. I feel like we we we we thought that we could smell a fart, but I don't think that no. And I'm not going to spend time

29:23KT: going back to my school years to remember that. If I'm gonna spend any time thinking about my school years, it'll be about me reading Pride and Prejudice.

29:23Oti: Especially

29:31Oti: in those afternoon classes where people are just tired or burnt to death or those prime time, mate.

29:31KT: This is not the

29:41KT: this is not For Your Flatulence, Oti.

29:45Oti: It'd make it'd make a good episode.

29:48KT: I'll have to I'll have to take a rain check on those recordings. Let's go to some more sketches. If anything, Oti, my goal, maybe not an exact replica, but I wanna capture the essence of the Valets in Key and Peele. Because not not just their energy, but their insights into film is is very poignant and it is an energy that is missing in the landscape of movie and TV podcasts. Yeah. Obviously, if you've watched Key and Peele or I I feel like this popular one. Even if you've never watched

30:30KT: Key and Peele before, you would have heard of Liam Neesons from Tookin. Mhmm. Peter Dinkles who plays Tywan Lannister. Bruce Willis, Michelle Pfeiffers, Timothy Olyphant, and racist ass Melly Gibsons. Oh, racist ass Melly Gibsons. I think the interesting thing because we watched this sketch just yesterday, and you were talking you were actually reflecting on racist ass Melly Gibsons filmography.

31:02Oti: I grew up on a lot of racist ass Melly Gibsons movies made. A lot of people did. Yeah. And and and I think you you came at me when I said, I prefer The Patriot to Braveheart. You know, I'll stick by that. Growing up, I watched The Patriot. I watched both of them. Mhmm. Patriot, Braveheart, multiple, multiple times. And I think The Patriot got me every single time to cry.

31:27Oti: And it and it was just it hit the feels that I needed Mhmm. More than Braveheart.

31:27KT: Well, I I don't even have a dog in this fight because I haven't watched The Patriot or Braveheart. I just didn't know you know Hello friends and lovers. We're breaking the fourth podcast right now. We do have a Reference Degustation that we recently just started where we take you through a four or five course menu with a particular theme. I'm not sure if we have degustation big enough to cover shit I haven't watched.

32:06KT: But it'll be interesting to see how we can incorporate that. But a lot of the times you don't like rewatching stuff. So that's why a lot of the things we cover on the podcast are things that I've never watched before. Because you wanna watch new shit.

32:20Oti: Because I don't wanna relive my past.

32:20KT: Alright. Not

32:24KT: really sure what you're doing there, but okay. The interesting thing was I forgot what we were watching. We were watching something and you inadvertently became an Oti valet. And you're like, oh, is that June Squibbses?

32:48Oti: Yep. I I remember that. Well, obviously,

32:51KT: it wasn't up for debate. It was a fact.

32:57Oti: Well, I'm bad with names or the best of days. So just Squibbses sounded quite perfect to me.

33:05KT: But the Squibbses though?

33:07Oti: Mhmm. The Squibbses though.

33:11KT: Keeping along the vein of, like, homages and references to movies, we have, I don't know what the exact sketch is called, but I will call it the continental sketch. Mhmm. So we mentioned that even in our Get Out and Us episodes, but Jordan Peele is a big fan of horror, especially if you're not up to date with his filmography and his executive producing. He is a big fan of horror, and Key and Peele had quite a lot of homages to horror movies, including Saw, The Omen, which we mentioned in the Get Out episode,

33:47KT: and this continental breakfast sketch. There's also another so this is alluding to The Shining and there's also another sketch where all black people have The Shining as well. But, you know, there there are lots of instances and references to The Shining in particular in Jordan Peele's works. But let's talk a little bit about this continental breakfast sketch.

34:13Oti: We have to do, oh, continental breakfast anytime we're at a hotel that offers off a buffet. We do. We do.

34:23KT: I love fanfare, I must say. I do partake in the frivolity of fanfare, especially when we are on holiday. But we still carry our luggage because we're not dicks. Mhmm. Right, Oti?

34:23Oti: Maybe to each other, but not to others.

34:23KT: But the the continental breakfast sketch, It is wondrous. And you you don't even need to know what the twist is at the end of the sketch because you're just enjoying the character.

34:23Oti: Oh, for sure.

34:23KT: And how he's looking at the spoon and the fork, the fpoon.

34:58KT: That sounds like a niche category on Pornhub or something, but there you go. And him him eating the banana, very similar to Plebs as well. But, yes, it is a great it is a great sketch. The way he cries because the food tastes so good, that is me binging every night. And I'll have what I'm having. Like, there's there's so many GIFs just in general that I use from Key and Peele. Obviously, people like to use the sweating with the WiFi password of

35:33KT: Jordan as well. But there are many delicious GIFs that come out of the continental breakfast. And then obviously, you know, there's that spoiler alert at end where, you know, he's been there the whole time. So he has this dandy little frolic through the continental breakfast every Which

35:53KT: is very very lovely.

35:53Oti: You know, speaking of horror, think one of the best ones as well was when there's an apocalypse, everyone had turned into a zombie, and then the zombies were racist. So the zombies were running from any black person on the street.

36:13KT: That's like that's like the reverse. Instead of killing off the black character first, you're just letting them live. Just let them live, you know. It was funny because,

36:22KT: obviously, you didn't know that at the start of the sketch, and it was just survival. Right? Yeah. And then when Jordan and Keegan's character are trying to run through the group, you know, they're trying to run through this group of zombies, no one's running at them. And it isn't after a few steps they realize no one's running after them. And Jordan, like, puts his arm up to, like, a lady zombie. Just, like, moving away.

36:45Oti: Oh, there's, like, there's a zombie couple in the car, I think, beat each They're trying to lock the door. And the window's open.

36:56KT: Oh, dear. He gotta love this. Yeah. That's like Lovecraft Country is currently airing at the moment, and we're really enjoying it. But that also has, like, supernatural elements, you know, to themes of racism. But this is done in a more fun way. Mhmm. In a way that's not too piercing or analytical. It's just hilarious. And I think at the end of that sketch as well, there's like a white zombie man trying to climb over the offense with the hugging a boba Oh

37:29KT: my goodness. And again, when when they do it well, when the sketches hit, they hit. Right? Speaking of sketches hitting in all of the right places, I wanna talk about Georgina and Esther and Satan.

37:29Oti: Oh, that's one of the best.

37:29KT: One of the best, but unfortunately, whenever I try and look it up on Giphy, because surprisingly, I wanna use that GIF more often than I should. Maybe that's a way of Giphy of censoring me. But I I really, really like this sketch. And,

38:05KT: you know, whatever frame of reference that you have, if you've had, like, a religious upbringing and you have aunties or grandmothers that were very devout, but also very judgy with their devoutness,

38:19KT: you could definitely

38:19Oti: They come all in that flavor.

38:22KT: Oh, yeah. The most the most fiery of flavors. We have Georgina and Esther. And it's hilarious because it's the language that they use. Right? How they just talk about, oh, you know, Satan's got his claws in my nephew, but I'm going I'm going to strangle I'm going to strangle Satan with my prayers.

38:22Oti: With my prayers?

38:22KT: And it escalates. Like, this sketch escalates to the point of Jordan Peele's character threatening to flirt with the devil. Mhmm. Twerk on the devil. Mhmm. Ride him. Ride him real good. Left, right, and snap it off.

39:10KT: And you know what? When we were rewatching this in preparation for the episode, we watched the episode that was censored. So it was making the really loud bleeps. And I feel like that makes it sound more offensive. Like

39:10Oti: It did.

39:10KT: I was literally clutching my nonexistent pearls and I was closing my nonexistent robe. Oh. It was very uncouth. Oh, wow. And even further on in that sketch, she literally takes on the devil.

39:43Oti: Yeah. They get possessed. Mhmm. And the devil can't understand what the hell is happening with his woman. This

39:49KT: feels good. Why would you do this?

39:55Oti: What do they call it? The kegel of The divine kegel. The divine kegel.

40:01KT: I'll do some research to see if I can put that in the description without it getting flagged. Mhmm. And also the pornography of women. Mhmm. As well. And, again, frame of reference is really it really bolsters an already funny sketch. Yeah. So if anyone has any sort of judgmental older, like female figures in their family, I'm sure they can relate to the snootiness and the judginess of it all. Mhmm. Unfortunately, we have to deal with the visual of them riding Satan, that is like South Park Satan devil level as well. A really

40:44KT: fun one that we also have referenced quite a lot on our podcast is Carlito.

40:51Oti: Hey. And the proud him being a proud thug. Proud thug, man. I think that's the first sketch you showed me of theirs that really bought really brought your case to the table of actually me sitting through the whole five seasons of Key and Peele. Uh-huh. Because I had never watched anything, like, as hilarious as that. It was fucking mind blowing.

41:14Oti: So you have Jordan, as Carlito. Mhmm. You know, they're having a meeting. He gets into the room, but then all the seats are taken. Everyone sits down and there's no chairs. So what do you do? You stand you stand next to the table. And it's super awkward there. Yeah. And and then you have Keegan off of telling Jordan, why well, just get your chair. Get the chair. Get the man a chair. And they bring the chair. I'm like, nah. Stupid. That ship has sailed. Nah. I'm alright. I'll just stand here. He

41:42Oti: falls on the table and gets shanked.

41:45KT: Yeah. I think one of my favorite parts of the sketch is because he's got this vibrato about him. And even until death, he holds that up as well. You have Keegan's character being like, Carlito, go back into your body, man. And he's like, not my body, stupid, Hops. And they're telling him to go into the line. He's like, nah. Heaven is pussy. Heaven was pussy. It's so it's effective. It's stupid. Wouldn't say it is on their most clever, but it's fucking effective, man. Yeah. And we get to see the guy from the teens from

42:23KT: Breaking Bad.

42:23Oti: Oh, really?

42:23KT: Yeah. See, you're doing this. You brought Breaking Bad up last week, and now you're bringing it up again. It's it's not my fault that they had characters that were there here. Nice try, Oti Heisenberg.

42:36Oti: Oh, for sure. You know, I'm the one who knocks. Wow. Knocks on that ass.

42:41KT: Very nice.

42:43Oti: Knocks on that ass, we need to make a song. We need to write a song.

42:43KT: Speaking of that ass, let's talk about the slap ass sketch

42:52KT: with Rafi. Well, Oti, you've talked about playing sports in school. You know, this sketch, the premise of it is essentially, you know, all the bros are super bros, but they still slap each other's asses and it's not weird. That premise gets challenged because Rafi loves loves to slap ass. In one of the jokes that Keegan says, you know, it's it's the baseball league. We're all Dominican Republic. But he also says, you know, none of us have ever heard of slap ass before. My

43:33KT: child asks me, why does this man keep on touching my ass?

43:39KT: It's just you know what? Like, I as much as they are a duo, I fucking love Jordan Peele. I've noticed that a lot of my favorite characters are him. And I think just the way that he plays it, him playing Rafi is so ridiculous.

43:56Oti: Yeah. Yeah. It really is. I I don't know. I've just seen this sort of spanking a lot in American sort of sports and shit. We never never at least in my time, don't really have touched our asses in whatever form of camaraderie.

44:11KT: Well, the interesting thing is when you say it, it sounds very kinky. Even in the Key and Peele sketch, it seemed like innocent slap ass, but the way you'll say it sounds very kinky. How about in the Premier League or the the Americans will call it soccer?

44:28Oti: Well, I could see. Yeah. I see coaches spanking the guys when they're being substituted and shit.

44:28KT: Slap ass. Don't say spank ass. That's

44:37KT: why.

44:41Oti: Oh, so there's a difference. Spank and slap.

44:45KT: Okay, friends and lovers. We we try not to mention too much, you know, the pandemic that's going on right now, but I just need to mention it here. I think Oti's been alone with me at home for too long. It's slap ass, not spank ass. That's where the kinkiness is coming from. I don't know. Oti's

45:10Oti: a lover, mate.

45:14KT: Oh, but yeah, that slap ass sketch is hilarious. One of one of my other favorite sketches that I really, really enjoyed, I think it's just called a gay wedding. And we have Jordan Peele's character bringing in a colleague from his work Yeah. Because he's a member of the homosexual community, I think Mhmm. Was the actual phrase for it because someone in their family is gay and is going to have a gay wedding. Mhmm.

45:46KT: So the the the whole idea that they would bring a gay person so they can ask questions about a gay wedding is is so offensive on many levels. And I think that's what also makes it very funny as well. Amongst the family members, there's quite a lot of familiar faces. The most lovable that I will mention is Lance Reddick. Yeah. He had probably the best lines

46:16KT: in this scene as well.

46:16Oti: I love the way he even delivered it.

46:22KT: Because he, you know, he it was little jokes that led up to the big joke of, you know, when are we gonna sing Over the Rainbow because it's a religious ceremony. I think the other one was Y.M.C.A. Yeah. And it was working up to the big joke of gay hymns at a gay wedding as well. This sketch is great because, you know, even though I I don't have that specific frame of reference, I do have family members that are way too ignorant than I would care to admit. You

46:59KT: know, they they just say things that are only for home talk and not outside world Mhmm. Talk, and you hope that other people outside of your family don't hear what they're about to say. Yeah. The people if they had Google homes, then everyone's just listening. Adrian Googled offices laughing their asses off. As if they're not doing that to us already.

46:59Oti: Well, it's part of their life, mate.

46:59KT: But I do like to tell our

47:22KT: smart homes that they're stupid bitches just so they know who the top bitch is Mhmm. In this house. There's too many bitches' voices in this house. Can I just say? But we you know? And I think that's that's what I took from it. It's it's not funny because it's a gay wedding. It's funny because everyone has these sorts of family members that would say stupid shit like this. Oh, yeah. For sure. There's also the family member that doesn't even give eye contact to Keegan's character.

47:48KT: He also had some very good lines as well asking where do they get the euro to buy the gay gifts. Like some things you wonder where the fuck you get that from. Yeah. But it's it's just absolutely ridiculous. And it's like, we're not gay, so which section do we sit in? Do we sit in the straight section Yeah. As well? Or or since we can't throw rice, would we throw couscous?

48:11KT: And

48:14KT: then we we also have one of the best lines that we we reference even to this day is will we be too far to see the pony show? Wow. Just wow. There's so much about Key and Peele that's very it's timely and it's also rooted in, you know, love and also experience as well. So, you know, front seats to the pony show every day in this household. Speaking of every day in this household, just one of the

48:49KT: minor sort of sketches or sketches that I don't think gets a lot of attention is the Tackle and Grapple. Did you ever do any sort of martial arts as a kid?

48:49Oti: No.

48:59Oti: I was too scared of breaking my neck.

48:59KT: Fair enough. Busta Rhymes style or just the normal garden variety?

48:59Oti: Just the normal garden variety.

49:11KT: Again, it's it's very eighties inspired. It's ridiculous, and that's what makes it funny. It's very effective. You know, even when he talks about, like, there's this one guy and then they talk about having super master classes and then the guy disappears because it's not offered to him. It's only offered to the ladies Yep. As well. It's just it's just funny. It's funny and it's timely and it definitely still stands up all of these years from now. We also have LaShawn and Samuel. The first time we're introduced to them is when

49:47KT: same sex marriage is legalized in a particular state. Yep. And you have Samuel who's a bit more reserved, maybe didn't necessarily believe that the law would be passed in their particular state, not even thinking about marriage. And then you have LaShawn talking about renting the mood and filling it up with Rose. Mhmm.

50:07KT: Yeah. Just because the bill was passed, doesn't mean the guy is ready to get married. Yeah. I think he just used an excuse the whole time. He's like, I don't think it's fair for us to get married while other people can't get married.

50:19Oti: When the bill got passed, it was like, oh, yeah. It snuck out of the office quite quickly.

50:19KT: Absolutely.

50:25KT: Mhmm. Did you know, Oti, that Key and Peele, one of the working titles that were being considered was beige? Beige. This was due to them being biracial, but they decided that the title was too silly. Beige. Beige. Not even eggshell off white beige, just beige. Yikes. Yeah. So I'm I'm glad they chose not to go down that route, But there'll also be other decisions that they went down like Keanu, for example. Mhmm. I have read some reviews on Keanu though, and people were saying that it's more like it's more satirized

51:01KT: as opposed to it trying to be taken seriously.

51:01Oti: It's a lot of shit. A lot

51:01KT: But Method Man is in it, so I feel like I need to give it. Method Man is in everything.

51:01Oti: It's crap.

51:01KT: And it is most welcome. How dare you?

51:01Oti: We like we like Method Man, but him and Keanu does not save it.

51:01KT: Okay, Methodless Man.

51:21Oti: You can you can you can have cheese all you want. It's not gonna save it.

51:21KT: Oh, The

51:26KT: Mhmm. Go and check out The Wire. We have over three and a half hours of podcast content for your friends and lovers. Speaking of content, the director, Peter Atencio, was planning to quit before the second season because, apparently, Comedy Central wanted the audience reactions to be a part of the sketches. Really? So the sketches would have already been filmed. Right? And they were going to play the sketches, and they wanted to include that laughter from the audience when it airs. Ew. Disgusting. Right? Yeah. So he resisted and ultimately the network changed their minds,

52:08KT: but that's super cheap. Yeah. And personally, I can't deal with shows that have a laugh track. Like, if it was back in the day and I was watching it, yeah, no dramas, no worries. But as soon as Arrested Development I would say Arrested Development is kind of the new wave of, you know, that smart, sharp sort of comedy that didn't have a laugh track.

52:31KT: You know, since Arrested Development came along, I never looked back. Even though there were shows even shows up until today that continue with a laugh track, I just can't fucking deal with it. It's too cheesy to me. I think they have a place,

52:45Oti: and I don't mind watching shows with a track. Like, it's

52:45KT: In 2020,

52:49KT: do you mean, like, back in the shows, you can still enjoy it if it has a laugh track, or you're saying even now a show in 2020?

52:55Oti: Like, it's it's almost nostalgic, and there's sometimes you just wanna and you know those kind of shows, you know exactly what you're gonna get. So I I am for the ad libs, the the actors getting the energy from the, you know, from the from the audience. It's it's it's fun and cute, and I'm not gonna sit here and hate it because I grew up watching a lot of those and

52:55KT: Well, I'm gonna hate it. Don't

53:19KT: tell me when to laugh.

53:19Oti: It's not telling you when to laugh, is it though?

53:19KT: But if it's funny, I'll fucking laugh. I don't need your laughing in my ear.

53:19Oti: Fair enough. To each their own.

53:19KT: Actually, I will take it if it's that ostrich in Family Guy. Then if that's the laugh track, then I'll take it. Otherwise, I rebuke you in the name of For Your Reference.

53:40Oti: Okay.

53:41KT: I think we've we've covered a good range, Oti. Mhmm. I do just wanna mention one more sketch and it's it's a really baby mention. Jordan's character goes into a mattress store and he's looking for the most comfortable mattress. And mattress shopping can be very exciting, but it can also be very intimidating because it's a whole industry and there's so many different materials, there's strings, there's bondage, there's well, if you're welcome, there's bondage.

54:17KT: There's so many details that go into mattresses. So you have Jordan's character trying to navigate what the best mattress is. And all of us have qualifiers. We might lay on the bed. We might spring the cushions and see how it works. And when Oti is not touching my ass, he's testing the mattress. But the way that Jordan's character in this sketch evaluates whether it's a good mattress or not, he starts bouncing on and goes, who got that good D? Who got that good D? Who got that good D?

54:47KT: And that alone is hilarious. Again, you need to have multiple laughs in a sketch. And he says, who got that good D? Who got that good D? And then you see later on in the sketch that it's not actually him that has got that good D, unfortunately. Mhmm. But that that's pretty much it, friends and lovers. Yeah. Well, there we go, and lovers. Thank you to the prototype of sketch reviews

55:13KT: on the For Your Reference podcast. We take kindly to your kind around here. We are going to finish off in a segment we call For Your Reference,

55:20KT: Oti.

55:20Oti: I'm gonna reference the Chappelle Show.

55:20KT: Nice.

55:20Oti: It sort of set the foundation for what Key and Peele are doing and a lot of other people. Mhmm. And the second one will be Astronomy Club on Netflix

55:20KT: Nice.

55:20Oti: Which is pretty cool. It has a really cute episode on there where they're talking about childhood trauma. You know? How we

55:20KT: Oh, childhood trauma is very cute. Okay?

55:43Oti: No. How we reminisce about how the good old days, how we were beaten, but we don't realize the effects of it now. Oh, absolutely. Done very neatly and cleverly, and I I love that was one of the best I've seen.

55:43KT: I I really like that too because it really seeps into your own psyche

55:59KT: and, you know, demons that you haven't battled within For sure. Yourself. You you just laugh at how funny your beatings were, and you're like, oh, shit. That fucked me up. Yep. Maybe maybe not to the level of not being able to sleep in your bed again, but like It messed you up in a way. It definitely in all the ways. I will reference A Black Lady Sketch Show. One very delicious season. Executive produce also starring in some cases, Issa Rae and Robin Thede.

56:30KT: And it is most welcome, and we can't wait to see another season of it. If you aren't aware, we also announced that we're going to do a Halloween special episode. Mhmm. Oti. So if you wanna see more details on that, check out our Twitter and Instagram @ForYourRefPod. You can write us an email at hello@fyrpodcast.com. If you have any sketch ideas, you can also send the email there as well.

56:53KT: We're also on Apple Podcast. So if you would be so kind, we would love if you can leave us a rating and review. And we'll see you guys next week.

57:02Oti: See you. Sexual.