BONUS – Talking Anime with SavageOtaku and AnimeNerd

Full transcript of BONUS – Talking Anime with SavageOtaku and AnimeNerd.

0:24KT: Hey, guys. It's For Your Reference. We've hit our twentieth episode.

0:30Nerd: Okay. Okay. Congratulations, guys.

0:32KT: Yeah. And welcome to our bonus episode. We have some guests, and they're going to introduce themselves. We've actually had an episode talking about Avengers Endgame. So if if you wanna go and check that out, we'll send you some links as well. But we couldn't do this alone. Like every anime, we needed a team behind us. So I'm very excited. Thank you so much for taking the time out. Do you wanna introduce yourselves?

0:58Savage: Oh, I don't. I like it. You it's all you, my man. Okay.

1:02Nerd: Hey, ladies and gentlemen. It's your boy, Anime Nerd. In case you guys haven't heard from me, I talk about video games, anime, manga, of course, because what's the name of Anime Nerd if you ain't gonna talk about those type of subject. I give you guys some of my review of what you guys should look for and stuff like that. So when you guys get a chance, definitely check me out.

1:23Savage: And they call me the Savage Otaku because I keep it real within the industry. Do not hold back, and I give my opinion full force. Nice to meet everybody.

1:31KT: Perfect. And we've we've definitely got the right team behind us. Right? Yeah. For sure. This is going to be a great episode. Get excited, guys. We will be covering anime this week, so it's very exciting. I think maybe we won't go into too many spoilers so people can still enjoy this episode. But, you know, grab your snacks, grab your drink. We're about to have a good time, guys. Oh, yeah. Can't wait.

1:58KT: So what I what I wanna do is before even talking about what our favorite animes are, I just wanna start off with, you know, how old were you when you watched your first anime, and what was it? Anime Nerd, do wanna go first?

1:58Nerd: Yeah. I'll go first. So

2:15Nerd: my my first very first anime would have to be well, at least that stood out to me was Beyblade, and I was no more than probably seven or eight years old. Used to me and my little bird used to wake up early in the morning and watch it. You know, they had toys with it, so we used to think we could summon Bit-Beasts. And it just stuck out to me so much that, you know, I even have password dedicated to it and stuff like that in background. So clearly,

2:43Nerd: it's one of those type of things that's been or stuck with me for a while. Well, older one, not the newer ones. I don't know nothing about the newer ones. Like the newer generation.

2:43KT: Yeah. And with Beyblade, like, my parents did not wanna spend money on it, so we had to wait until they were in the Happy Meals, like, McDonald's.

2:58KT: We had the really, like, the really cheap Beyblades, but, know, you get

2:58Nerd: I didn't even know they came in the Happy Meals.

2:58KT: Yeah. I mean, Beyblades. It was a very short, like, limited time.

2:58Nerd: Well, shoot. That was the best time to go get them then.

2:58KT: Well, if I ever find it, you know who I'm sending it

2:58Nerd: Yes.

3:13Nerd: Definitely. Hook me up with one just so could have it in the case.

3:16KT: Oh, totally. Otaku?

3:19Savage: Oh, me, it's weird because growing up, I didn't know that Pokemon and Beyblade were actual animes. So my first, I wanna say legit experience with a comic anime was Mobile Suit G Gundam, which was, I think it was Shining Gundam Yes, with that's And it was like, since then, I was like, Yo,

3:40Savage: so this is this anime life. I am in love with this stuff. And from there on, it was I just kept looking into it deeper and deeper, and then Toonami was popping up with different animes, and I just started to become a nerd.

3:52KT: See, if you thought we were just going to talk about Pokemon, guys, you were wrong. We got the heavyweights in the room, guys. I don't even know what that anime is. So good for you.

4:02Nerd: You guys definitely gotta go check it out. I promise you, you guys, you will like it. It's definitely a classic.

4:07Oti: Yeah. I would do. I think my first was Rurouni Kenshin. I think it's also called Samurai X. And at that time, I think I was around eight, nine. It was dub and I didn't really understand. I didn't know it was an anime. It was just fun and then enjoyed it. And then once I came into Dragon Ball and got hooked into the anime world, I had to rewatch Samurai X in its full glory in sub, and it's just amazing.

4:41KT: Wow. Why did I go last? Because mine's the least impressive. Which one? What's yours? I was around, like, nine or ten. And every day before school, they would have, like, cartoons. And they were mostly, like, Dragon Ball Z, but, like, Sailor Moon was my shit.

5:01Nerd: I can't fault you for that because it was kinda mine too. I enjoyed it as a guy. I did enjoy Sailor Moon, so I can't even deny that. We're all fighting evil by moonlight. You know? Not problem. Meatball head.

5:15Nerd: Right?

5:17KT: But, yeah, very very young. And, again, no one really knows because I'm I'm sure for you guys as well, it was all dubbed. Like, it was all in English as well. Yeah. And I think I think that was a nice little stepping stone, and we'll definitely talk about subs and dubs because we've got some things to say. Oh, boy. We'll leave that for later on. Oh, man. That's gonna be that that debate right there can be the entire podcast.

5:38KT: Right? Roll your sleeves up and wait for that guys. But, yeah, we will definitely go into that. But, yeah, Sailor Moon was like my thing. Like, me and my sister and my cousins, we used to fight over who's gonna be Sailor Moon, but we know who the queen bitch is. Right? Like, come on now. Like, we know. These are things we know. Your sister?

5:56Savage: Oh. Shots.

5:59Nerd: We know what's gonna happen to him after this podcast is over.

6:04Savage: This will the last. This will be the last. Yeah. Thanks for thanks for joining us on our last podcast. So they're about they better go solo.

6:12Nerd: They better go their separate ways. Totally.

6:14KT: But I I think that is quite interesting because it's such it's so easy to access anime. Like, even when you're younger and you don't really know it's an anime, it's quite nice to be able to dip into that sort of world.

6:20Nerd: Yeah. You don't realize you're entering the realm until you realize as you get older, like, wait, this was an anime because you now you know the difference between a cartoon and an anime. So it's crazy how influenced we were at a young age.

6:40KT: Yeah. And you feel all cultured and shit? Like Dragon Ball Dragon Ball Z was quite a big anime, and I think it's something that is most likely you've heard of it. Surely, you've heard of it. Yeah. Definitely. Just wanna spend some time talking about Dragon Ball if you guys are fine with that. Because I I started off with Dragon Ball Z before even Dragon Ball.

7:05Nerd: Same here. I think I think I was in between because I remember seeing an episode of Goku, but I think mostly remembering was Dragon Ball Z.

7:15KT: So I I'm with I'm in the same boat with you guys. Because I think there's, like, a whole culture of, like there's heaps of, like, hip hop, like, rap songs that talk about, like, reference being Goku Yeah. And Piccolo. Like, there's such a whole subculture of Dragon Ball Z.

7:32KT: Do you think it's because of Goku? Do you think it's because of being Super Saiyan? Like, what do you reckon?

7:32Nerd: I think it is. I mean, Dragon Ball Z started off as one of those shows, a gateway for a lot of people. Yeah. Lot of droid growing up. So in the end, like, even though let's be real, Dragon Ball Z may not have the best storyline,

7:51Nerd: but it's one of those animes that you just have to show your respect to because of what it is and everything like that. And people will hardly disrespect Dragon Ball Z because it and like I did in my podcast, I look at it. Dragon Ball Z is the only anime that I know that has like sold out movie theater type Like when I went to the movie theater, all of it was sold out. That's how influential Dragon Ball Z is

8:19Nerd: in everything. It's just so it just shows how much respect it gains and how much it deserves and everything like that. Yeah.

8:27Savage: Dragon Ball, it was Dragon Ball has always been one of those animes that, for me, it always made me wanna push my limits, you know? And the culture behind it, because when I went to see the Broly movie as well, it was sold out just because of how influential it is to both young young and old and newer generations. Like, they are going to keep this alive for as long as they can because it is, like, the top tier anime to end all animes.

8:51KT: Yeah. It's it's a it's a good reference point to start off with or even just to dive into. And an interesting thing about Dragon Ball, because I know you mentioned Anime Nerd that it doesn't necessarily have a good story, but I think it's quite nice. Like, everyone likes the underdog, and you need to have, like, a protagonist that you can really, like, get behind. I think with Dragon Ball Z, it kind of what could have been better was having, like, 20 episode sagas of fighting Cell, like, and Frieza on the planet. Like,

9:23KT: the sometimes they're, like, battles are quite drawn out, but sometimes in anime, they kind of draw things out as well.

9:23Oti: Yeah. They do. But you know what? What was different? I think the first time I saw Dragon Ball Z,

9:34Oti: it was when I think Cartoon Network, and then they did this big promo. Dragon Ball Z is coming in a few weeks, and it looks completely different from what I used to watch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, the drawings, and it it looks amazing. From then on, I knew I'd be hooked on this. Oh, totally. Definitely.

9:34Nerd: I had a quick question for you guys.

9:55Nerd: Because since you guys are in Australia, I always wondered, like, did Dragon Ball Z came in English dub, like, from America, or did you guys have your own set of voice actors? That's a good question.

10:08KT: We have like two celebrities in Australia and they're all kangaroos.

10:14Nerd: Wow. That's what's fascinating. That is awesome.

10:18Savage: So Kangaroo Jack was one of your voice actors then?

10:18KT: Oh, totally.

10:23KT: No. It was the American. It was the American. Yeah. It all gave me the American dub.

10:28Nerd: Yeah. Okay. I I always wondered that. Like, you know, I know Japan have theirs and then, Mexico has theirs. And so I was I would be there for that.

10:39Savage: I wanna watch a Mexican dub.

10:43Nerd: Honestly, they actually aired the Mexican dubs in America at some at one point. Was more likely Southern California because this is mini Mexico. I kid you not.

10:51KT: Ah.

10:52Nerd: That's what I call it.

10:56KT: But, yeah, Dragon Ball Z was quite pretty much every guy wanted to be Goku, like, in school. And everyone was trying to kick everyone upside the head because they were put to they were, like, trying to fight. Everyone trying to go Super Saiyan. Yeah. And it I think it was very like, it had all of the tropes. It had all of the, like, machoness that, you know, most guys, like, appreciate with it.

11:18Nerd: But, you know, Chi Chi held her own. Hey. Gotta give it up. Chi Chi, the only only human that's stubborn, other than Bulma, but Chi Chi, she really did enforce goals. Bulma's not a ride or die.

11:30Savage: Not yet.

11:31KT: I'm gonna see somebody that trusts somebody else other than her own husband. Let's take a moment to grieve for Yamcha. Oh.

11:40Nerd: Oh, damn. Shots. That was cold. That was cold, Bulma. Yeah. I didn't even know yeah.

11:46Savage: Mean, to be fair, what was he really doing with his life? He's a baseball player, technically.

11:53Nerd: He's technically a professional baseball player. So I know he should supposed to have money, but you know, if you're not Mr. Satan, then you ain't got no money.

11:59KT: Yeah, but I think it was in Dragon Ball where all of the ladies were obsessed with Yamcha and I think Bulma's forgetting. Yeah, she definitely forgot Dragon Ball.

12:11Savage: It was actually in Z because when Yamcha was getting famous, he had all those fan girls and it was starting to piss her off. But it's tough. But Bulma technically upgraded though. She got Vegeta, so you I can't lie about that.

12:11KT: Do love Vegeta. Who would you say is your favorite in Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z?

12:28Nerd: I'm a Gohan fan. I'm Team Gohan. Oh, really?

12:31Nerd: Yeah, I'm Team I'm sorry.

12:34Nerd: After what they did to your character. Yeah, they, they, he pretty much just shitted on my character, but it's okay though. I'm so wide. In Gohan we trust, you know?

12:44Savage: I'm not gonna lie. I'm a have to keep it Goku still just because

12:48Savage: Of course. Love that personality, man. He's always striving to do better. I can't be mad at him.

12:55Oti: Yeah. Goku as well for me. He just can't get better than Goku. I think they could. No. Goku.

13:01Nerd: Goku. Yeah. You're right. Did you just play late? You said Vegeta?

13:01KT: Vegeta.

13:01Nerd: I'm sorry. Your boy would never get the respect he deserves. I'm just it's

13:01Savage: That's that's not true, man. Super, he did get get his respect.

13:12KT: I am drinking the Vegeta Kool Aid, man.

13:17Savage: I feel like Vegeta got all that respect in Super.

13:19KT: I like I appreciate the edgier ones. Like, the edgier sort of characters. They're kind of my alley.

13:19Nerd: Just waiting for them to get my boy Goten some type of love. He's the only one out of all the Saiyans that don't get no type of development. Trunks, even kid Trunks have more development than Goten.

13:38KT: Don't worry about You guys are so dedicated. I think I kind of dipped out when Gohan was kind of like an adult but he was being super whiny and I'm like

13:49Savage: She can't understand it.

13:53KT: It's like you're as strong as your dad, but you're still a bitch. Get

13:57KT: in together.

13:57Savage: She knows. Woah. Woah.

14:00Nerd: Woah. Woah.

14:02Savage: I'm telling you, after the Cell Saga, was a wrap.

14:06Nerd: I'm sorry.

14:10Savage: Goku came back stronger.

14:12Nerd: Oh, gosh. You know what? Savage, we're have to have offline conversation.

14:20KT: Anime Nerd has left the chat. But I also wanna give a shout out to Master Roshi and his love for the Pichi Pichi girls.

14:32Nerd: Hey. I can't complain. That man rubbing some females, boy.

14:37KT: But I I I do appreciate, like maybe because I'm with Oti, but I do appreciate the perverted characters as well.

14:44Oti: Well, granted, I was watching this with my family sitting around, and my dad would be like, what the hell are you watching?

14:52KT: Well, you also watch you also watch Tip Drill with your family. So

14:56Nerd: Oh, wow.

15:01Nerd: Oh, man. Hey. But I ain't gonna lie. Earlier, Dragon Ball, like Dragon Ball series, if you guys ever did get a chance to watch the original. Now that one was real perverted. Yes.

15:13KT: Just recently watched Dragon Ball.

15:15Nerd: I was like, well, Goku over this, Mac and Girls, like, it was nothing. I'm like Japan's a fun place, man. That's all I can tell you. It was Krillin and Goku specifically went on a mission to find a honey for him.

15:25KT: It but it it it was good value. It was good value. I definitely enjoyed was funny. Is there anything else you guys wanna mention about Dragon Ball?

15:37Savage: If you haven't seen it, what are you doing with your life right now? Yeah.

15:41Nerd: It's like a building it's the grandfather, even though it isn't the first anime, but it's one of those, you just gotta respect it type things.

15:51Oti: Totally. It's definitely one of the best gateway animes. If you really wanna get into anime, it's one that you'd definitely recommend

15:59Nerd: Totally.

15:59Oti: To start off with.

15:59Nerd: Definitely, because it isn't gonna show you because you know, most people have a negative adaptation about anime. They think it's just a whole bunch of girls with like super huge boobs and stuff.

16:10Savage: I mean, would they be wrong though?

16:13KT: Okay. That's totally wrong.

16:16KT: It would be nice if they animated like a nice fat ass because like, I feel like there's not enough attention for the ass. Okay. That's how that's

16:25Savage: I'm probably gonna ruin everyone in here for saying this, watch Prison School and you'll get all the ass you want.

16:34Nerd: I know exactly what you're talking about. Just we gotta watch Prison School. I actually agree with her. They always showing big bust size and they never show big So

16:44Savage: it's strange, you know. I mean, Japan's more focused on boobs for some reason.

16:49Nerd: Yeah. But I've been there and a lot of them don't have that. So Oh.

16:56Savage: I don't get my I don't know. I'm just saying. Because you're Japanese audience.

17:01KT: Yeah. So we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna move on but not move on. Okay. Anime Nerd, I do wanna ask or even for Otaku as well, you know, when you consume something and you love it so much, it kinda makes you interested in the culture, which you kinda mentioned as well. So you've been to Japan before. What was it like?

17:01Nerd: Oh, it was amazing.

17:21Nerd: The year that I live out there, I really love the culture. People are so kind. And, like, if you watch, like, slice of life anime, it's literally that exact same thing of how the Japanese is, like the school uniform, you know, people minding their business on the train. You see little kids walking, even right down to that little noise that the crosswalk make. And like that certain bird, like, don't know if you guys, guys watch Naruto, you hear that bird? Yes. You literally hear that in Japan, which is Yeah. I

17:54Nerd: was like, yo, that is crazy. It just gives you a deep appreciation of the culture, which makes me wanna move back because I love Japan. That place was amazing.

18:05KT: I feel Especially now they're building a Naruto theme park.

18:05Savage: Yeah. Oh, it's already there. It's already there. There's a Studio Ghibli one that's going to be built in 2022.

18:14Nerd: Oh, I can't wait. I I know where I'm about to go, for real. Right?

18:18KT: Otaku?

18:20Savage: Personally, I love, like because the anime really has got me interested in other cultures because I've always personally been a very cultural person. Oh my gosh, person. It's hard to speak right now. It's 2019, we're old people. I've always tried to surround myself with different cultures because I never wanted to be ignorant to the, you know, I wanted to respect other people's cultures for when it came

18:43Savage: time and I wanted to show interest and gauge because I used to go to a Brazilian church. I grew up around a lot of Haitian people, got interested in their culture. It always just feels good to dive into someone else's background to get to know more about them. Yeah. And with anime, I've done that a lot. I researched it, got into it, taught the people and it always just feels good to have that respect for the industry. And oh my gosh, I love it.

19:08KT: I do have a dream for Oti and I to come to Comic Con and I will be Rock Lee, and Oti's gonna be Guy Sensei. Green latex.

19:20Nerd: That remind me, Comic Con is coming here. I need to go buy my tickets.

19:24Nerd: I completely forgot.

19:24KT: Yeah. Are you are you gonna cosplay? You're not gonna cosplay, are you?

19:29Nerd: Not this time because it's a little too late for that. I should have been playing that out. But I actually do wanna go to an event where I actually cosplay. But it's gonna have to be as Itachi.

19:40KT: The the blackest Itachi. Black

19:43Nerd: Itachi. I'll I'll represent the black Itachi.

19:46KT: I I did wanna talk about Naruto, so let's let's do it now. Let's dive in. Perfect. Yeah. Well, you talked about Itachi. He is, like, the most purest character ever. And I don't I don't know if we should spoil should we spoil it? Go ahead. I mean, it's the same. It's It's over for a while. The series over. So Well, like, he was the the most purest ever. He allowed Sasuke to think that he was evil just so he could serve the purpose for the village.

20:18Oti: Yeah.

20:19Nerd: Yeah. I did not see that twist coming at all. Yeah. I like that twist, though. You know, I was already a big fan of him even when I thought he was evil. But when they added that twist, I was like, look. This man could do no wrong. He's the greatest ninja of all time. Ain't nobody ever seen Anime Nerd's logo, have you? Got It's a touchy on it. It really is. Yeah. Big fan. I don't think I'm a fanboy, but you know, I'm just saying.

20:45Savage: It's super solid. Yeah. Mean, after that battle with him and Sasuke. Oh my gosh, I was like, no. Feels. No, the feels just for it all in this way, looking,

20:58Nerd: the thing with when he found out the truth, Sasuke just felt nothing but salt. I told, I had the biggest argument with one of my, one of my actually, of it. It's my little brother I had the biggest argument with because he's a Sasuke fan. He like, oh, Sasuke beat Itachi. I'm like, Joe. Nah.

21:15Oti: Nah. Nah, bitch. Did they watch the fight? Oh,

21:18Oti: Itachi left Sasuke inmate. Yeah. Like, he put him on his face.

21:18KT: Is your is your brother Sakura? Like because

21:26KT: that's the only person she was blind to everything. Like, Sasuke was her number one. He even tried to kill her. She's still, like, she's still, like, stan him forever. She's ridiculous. We don't care about Sakura. I don't wanna

21:42Savage: She had that one moment. Just that one. Cha. It's funny, Sasuke's and Itachi's relationship after when during the war got even better too, after he fed up the truth and was able to get the closure he needed. So Itachi's definitely a good character. I'm just conflicted. I'm gonna lie. Some people kinda confused me when they said that Itachi would run through Madara, which which he held. I'm like, I'm sorry. Not in his lifetime.

22:08KT: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's it's interesting how people have, like, different theories about it. And what I really like about Naruto, it's because we watched Naruto, and then most recently, we were watching Dragon Ball because we wanted to feel the feels. And it kind of copied the formula of Dragon Ball. You've got this cute little innocent kid that has so much power. Right? And he kind of finds his way through the world. But Naruto, I would say, I I would I would rank it over Dragon Ball. I love Naruto.

22:36Savage: That's gonna be up to no. Gosh. Now your side character is definitely gonna be on fire.

22:36KT: Just because I think Naruto has a stronger storyline. The story is substantial role. I had to agree with them. And the side characters have more dimension.

22:36Savage: I mean, I I don't agree Naruto has the better story, but Dragon Ball Z isn't about the story.

22:58Nerd: It's truly not. It's all about have the best fight scenes. You know, one of the best fight scene, iconic fight scenes. Okay? We can agree on that. But I have to agree with them. But does Dragon Ball have Kakashi?

23:09Savage: No. They don't even have Itachi. So, you know But but does not return to Jiren. He is the Mac daddy. Yeah.

23:16Oti: But how many times can Kakashi be beaten? How dare you? Actually, yeah.

23:21Nerd: I feel him. Like, they get him out or not snatch his eye out. There were other people in the hospital. It wasn't just Kakashi. Every time Kakashi fights, he go he ends up in hospital. I will chipotle on him in the neck. Hey. I'm a I'm a tell you the truth. I feel like the anime didn't do Kakashi justice. Thank you. For Kakashi to be the person that they say he is, they kinda send him back. Because, you know, at the end with the dual Sharingan and Kakashi, ain't nobody was gonna touch him. Yeah.

23:47Nerd: Yep. Hey, La la, and watch your mouth. Madara.

23:49Savage: Madara slid up on a real quick. Need that eyeball, sir. Excuse me. Thank you. Have a nice day. But I agree with that about

24:02Nerd: I'm putting Naruto over Dragon Z because I felt like there's so many more iconic characters in Naruto than Dragon Ball Z.

24:07Savage: But does Naruto have his own holiday? Not yet.

24:15KT: Get He's that. Naruto's gonna get that Dragon Ball Z treatment. But for all of the different, like, characters, you could literally pull them out and make them a spin off. And then there is the Rock Lee spin off as well because they're so substantial. You've got Shikamaru, Ino, and Choji. That that whole family and the way that they have their formation together, timeless. And Ino was an OG. I don't know why people talk about Sakura. She was the strong she could literally, like Take over your body. Yeah. Yeah. Like a thousand to hair as well.

24:50Savage: She missed it. Here goes her solo. Come

24:55KT: Who would you say who would you say your favorite character is from Naruto?

24:55Nerd: Well, you guys already know mine, so I ain't gotta go. Yeah.

24:55Savage: I'm I'm just 100, Sasuke. I gotta go with him.

25:05Nerd: Oh, you want a whining, crying emo kid. I got you.

25:05Savage: I mean, no. I'm a edge lord, sir. Thank you.

25:05Nerd: It's alright. If I had to choose, though Itachi will be mine, my second will be Naruto. You got to I'm a sucker for it. Always. To see a struggle person get stronger than a naturally talented person who had to go out and leave the village, I ain't gonna throw no shade, but you know what I'm talking about.

25:26Savage: Hey, man. Sometimes you got me, Vegeta left Earth. Like, I can't be mad.

25:36KT: How do you feel about the third Hokage just letting Naruto live a really sad life and he didn't show him any life. No. He ain't shit. No.

25:49Nerd: I agree. Like, for us to find out that he was the son of the fourth Hokage and they treated him, I know they were supposed to keep it a secret, at the same time, kind of fucked up. Sorry for my language, but that's fucked up.

25:59Savage: Mean, the third Hokage asked people to do a lot of shady shit, like including the fourth. And then you had him asking Itachi to kill his entire clan. Like third was not the best Hokage, in my opinion.

26:13KT: Konoha was a terrible village. It truly was. Think we realized how terrible.

26:19Nerd: That's saying that with the second Hokage, who they call Donald Trump.

26:23Savage: I mean, he was a racist and he wanted to build that wall. Cheetos and Chihahs out of here. So that's saying a lot.

26:31KT: I really I really liked Orochimaru. I think one of the funniest enjoyed him. I enjoyed It's kinda not funny, but one of the funniest moments is and Jiraiya Jiraiya is my love forever, but we'll talk about Jiraiya in a second. Yeah. Unfortunately. Orochimaru, when when they were showing him and Tsunade and all of them, like, in their own little clan when they saw the kids. And Orochimaru is like, let's kill the kids. Jiraiya, Jiraiya's like, no. We can't kill the kids. And what happens?

27:00KT: That turns into Pain. Yeah. And he's like, if

27:04KT: you followed Orochimaru, this would have been over a long time ago. This is true.

27:08Nerd: It's true. I ain't gonna lie though. Pain was one of the best arc in the Naruto series to me. It was interesting. It was a nice one to end. Yeah. Yeah. Especially seeing Naruto coming out with Sage Mode. I think I was too geeked on that. Oh, yes. That battle Oh, that battle was legendary. Yeah. It's definitely one top up there with the Naruto and Sasuke part one and two.

27:31Savage: Honestly, my favorite fight scenes doing Naruto is when Madara ran through the entire army by himself.

27:37Nerd: Bro, that was ridiculous.

27:39Savage: By himself. Called it a day.

27:42Nerd: I was like, how weak are you guys to let one man wipe you out?

27:45Savage: That is sad. I mean, did summon a meteor from space, like Yeah. Of them actually.

27:53Nerd: This actually lead me to a question I wanna ask you guys. Do you guys feel like the generation got weaker?

27:58Oti: Oh, Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh,

28:02Oti: no. It's default. But just give me the break. Black Clover is the better Naruto sequel.

28:07Savage: Really is.

28:08Savage: I'm gonna be the wizard king.

28:13KT: I'm not gonna lie. The only time I watch Boruto, if Naruto and Sasuke is in it. And to and then if they're not, then I don't even watch it. Because we kind of miss them all, like, growing up and getting, like, getting together and, like, before even, like, they even had Boruto Because they've already done that in Naruto. No. But like Yeah. But they can still no one's side. Do you not wanna see how they interacted together? Yeah.

28:34Savage: Oh, gosh. Some of those relationships, I was like, excuse me? What happened? Hey, look. I just wanna know how Choji got with a black girl. That was like the most random

28:44Savage: randomness thing. I was like, I was not expecting that.

28:48KT: Choji Choji got that good round dick. That's why. That's really so.

28:53Savage: I guess he's plumping a few places.

28:56Nerd: I mean, he can enlarge certain parts. Nice.

29:01Savage: I like that.

29:02KT: Let's claim that on this podcast.

29:07Nerd: So I guess, but yeah. I don't I don't accept Boruto as Naruto's son. Matter of fact, Naruto's son never had a kid. Except for Himawari. I do like Himawari.

29:17KT: Yes. Yes. Because she's more like Hinata. But yeah. Because he's, for me, he's kind of like Gohan, but even worse because he's spoiled.

29:28Nerd: You know what it is? I feel about that, bro.

29:31Savage: I'm sorry, bro. Gohan is trash tier now.

29:36KT: Struggle builds character. It really does. You know, you see this with Jaden and Willow Smith because they never had to struggle in life. They've gone all cuckoo in their head, and they don't know. Like, they've lost reality, really. Lying, though. And they're not as cool as Will or Jada. You know what I mean?

29:53KT: Yeah. So Boruto came off as really entitled and it's like, dude, you're super strong. Like, use it. Shikadai is a very good example of a kid that embodies his parent, but in his own way. Alex, he likes adei. If they did a Just show about him him. Yeah. I will watch it. I haven't seen any of Boruto, so I'm just gonna reserve my opinion. This is say, it's pretty much he looked like Shikadai.

30:12Nerd: But at the same time, he looked like his mom, which is weird. Yeah. It's like a really good mixture. I was like, they did a great job on that. But, yeah, I would watch the show based on Shikadai.

30:22KT: But shout out to Shikamaru's dad. Oh, yes. And his attitude towards women when you meet his wife, and it makes sense.

30:32Oti: It does. Doesn't it? Totally.

30:36KT: I just wanna talk about Jiraiya because I I fucking love Jiraiya. The feels. The feels. Oh, jeez. Not fair. No one died in Naruto except for him, really. For real. For real.

30:47KT: People kept coming back to life and

30:49Nerd: I ain't gonna lie, when I thought Kakashi died, I was like, Yo, I'm done with the show. But then he came back. Start of petition. I thought Jiraiya was the one, man. He was the chosen one. Just to die like how he did by his own student. Honestly, I think they did justice with Jiraiya because they showed how strong he was because Jiraiya did to him to fight all them Pain, they showed how strong, truly strong he was. And then he went Sage Mode. I'm like, damn.

31:13Savage: Yeah. But all that work just to take out one of them, man. That was truly sad right there. Jiraiya was the goat to me. And when he died, was like, man, I know this show is gonna get a lot. The reason why Jiraiya lost is he couldn't use Shadow Clone Jutsu because if he could. Oh my gosh. I'm just saying. He can handle them. Bro, let me explain Naruto to you. Naruto does not fight people. He jumps them.

31:36KT: That's fair enough.

31:38Nerd: He only need himself to jump.

31:41Savage: Me, myself, and on the same team.

31:42Nerd: He like, who's gonna jump me? You wanna see? Boom.

31:48KT: Wow. This turned into a Naruto bonus episode. Let's let's let's skip along to other animes. What are you guys enjoying now?

31:59Savage: One Punch Man.

31:59Nerd: Yep. I was gonna say the same. One Punch Man. I got

32:03Nerd: I I just did a review on Seven Seed, and I think I did the review a little prematurely. Oh. Because the end episode had me wanting more, and I didn't realize it. I'm like, Damn.

32:14Savage: Honestly, a good one that's still ongoing with the season one is Blade of Demon Destruction, or is it Demon Destruction Blade? One of those two, but What is it? I'm looking it up right now. Should it be Blade of Demon Destruction?

32:32Nerd: So I know I like my grand My Wise Man's Grandchild. I know I like that one, I wish it was with a better company because to me, it's kind of done it a little bit cheaply, but the storyline is good. I just wish, you know, how like you wish certain company would have took up with it because there's certain anime intros that I realized, Oh yeah, this is one of those anime that might not get a second season due to Now

32:57Nerd: for some reason, I noticed the difference where they take time in the opening compared to where they just do a little shabby job. I'm like, Yeah, it might not come back. But what's the one Reopening the Slime is good.

33:09Savage: You seen Dororo, anime in there? Oh, I'm watching that right now. Blade of Demon Destruction is that on steroids. Are you serious? Oh, yes. Dude, like, the first few episodes,

33:20Savage: was like, But after, you know, you started seeing the kid training and get his bearings about him, I was like, yo, this is a demon slaying anime right here. Okay. So it's better than Demon Slayer? Oh, of the is it better than Dororo? I can't say that because Dororo still has has my heart. What about Demon Slayer? Have you been watching that one? Demon Slayer. Oh, Demon Slayer. No. I have to watch it. I think I know I wanna see it, though. Yeah. I've been keeping up with it a lot lately.

33:44Nerd: I've been keeping up it too much. A lot. What about you guys? What anime are you guys watching?

33:48KT: Oti is watching more animes in the background than I am right now. We're waiting for Attack on Titan. We're banking up the episodes.

33:59Savage: Oh, yes. I have. Oh my this season, I was like back up to it. So You know, I'm ready. This season of Attack on Titan was better than the entire last season.

34:05KT: Yeah. Oh, last season was trash. I ain't gonna lie. I know all animes have this. Like, it's not just Attack on Titan, but we were super excited for season three to come back. So we watched the first episode. Right? You've got, like, the song, like, a minute and a half on each side. So that's three minutes. Then I have fifteen minutes of recap and two minutes of g footage. And we're like, no, man. We can't do this. Like, we have to wait. We can't do this. We're in this little bit That

34:32Savage: first episode of the the the latest season of Attack on Titan was was better being the entire last season than not being it. I was like, yeah. They're relieving themselves

34:40KT: You know what? It's like It's gotta pick back up again. Yeah. Like, for all sort of TV shows, season twos aren't really that great because the first one is great because you know the story that you need to tell. Season two, they kinda need to fill the gap so they can expand the story. Right? Yeah. It got a bit tedious. We were like, come on Hero Academia. That's season two.

35:00Oti: Oh, Hero Academia is amazing.

35:00KT: Yeah. Because you're watching that now, aren't you, Oti?

35:00Oti: Yeah. Waiting for the next season to come out. It's supposed be September, I think? Yes. I'm still trying to convince KT to watch it. You guys I promise you, you'll enjoy it. You'll be I'm not gonna lie. All Might has become one of my anime idols.

35:19KT: I like animes that feel like animes. Like, that that's just about heroes. Like, go and watch a Marvel movie.

35:19Oti: I don't I'm I'm I'm telling you, this is different. Yeah. It is. It is it is anime as as anime can get, to be honest.

35:19KT: Yeah. I did try it. Mhmm. I did try. But something that I try like,

35:40KT: I kind of didn't try, And then once I gave it a chance, it was good. One Punch Man. Because for me, that's such a dumb premise. That's such a dumb premise for an anime. You punch him and he's dead.

35:51Nerd: It's no. It's it's it's the than that. Yeah, I didn't know that. It's so I can't judge you because I was the same way, I'm like, why would I want to watch a show with One Punch Man? But now I enjoy it. It's one of my favorite anime to watch. I mean, read the manga while it was coming before that it even was before it got the idea of becoming an anime. So I was into it way back when. Oh, you guys know it's coming into a game too.

36:12Savage: Not buying that garbage. Am not buying that. I said it I think it's gonna be

36:12Nerd: Can we play each other? If I get it, I'll fight you. I'll fight you guys. No problem.

36:12Savage: Did you not are you really did you not see the gameplay for that game?

36:12Nerd: Bro, it's just it's an early concept. Relax. You gotta give it time.

36:30Savage: You say that. I don't know how Bandai works. I've been a fan of Bandai for too many years.

36:36Nerd: Yeah, you're right. I do. I did voice my concern because I literally just did a podcast like that. I'm concerned that it will be like, kind of like Naruto Ultimate Storm and Jump Force and all that. They're the same things. A lot of games is pretty much the same concept, just reskinned. So that's my only concern is it ends up like that.

36:50Savage: And it looks like it's gonna end up just like that. That's why I didn't even want it.

36:57KT: I think it might be useful because we have literal experts on this episode. How do you guys once you finish, like, an anime, how do you know to choose another one? Do you go on like MyAnimeList? Like any I know we just cry for like a few days because we finished an anime. So

37:16Nerd: I like to either like find the anime that have an interesting concept sometimes, but I do use MyAnimeList to find some or Crunchyroll, I just go randomly, just find like, this look interesting. Let me go check it out and see what it's about and just choose it.

37:16Savage: I'm kind of in the same boat. I'll just honestly go look up a synopsis for or like

37:36Savage: type in what I'm looking for in an anime and then just go based off that.

37:36Oti: Yeah. I I tend to use MyAnimeList a bit more and just see what what's up there because there's so many animes you can watch. If I sent you guys my list, you would all be disturbed. It is so long.

37:53KT: Tokyo Ghoul's quite disturbing. I have I've never been able to get into it. I tried so many I was the first season was good. And then the second season took so long that I didn't even finish complete watching it. So I gotta get back into it. We did say the first one was the best one, and then the third one went a bit weird. Yeah. But the if you just like, the first season alone of Tokyo Ghoul Mhmm. Just beautiful. And the Yeah. It was great. Animated. It's amazing.

38:19KT: And if you're into otaku, if you're into like salaciousness and weird sexual shit, like, please watch Tokyo Ghoul because even the opening scene

38:25Savage: I've seen Prison School. So I'm telling you, if you ever seen Prison School, you don't you just don't understand.

38:34KT: We might need to try it and then we'll talk.

38:39Savage: Do yourself a favor and watch it uncensored. That's where it shines. Always. It always needs to be uncensored. And Tokyo has the best interest song in any anime we've had. Tokyo Ghoul is the best. Has the best. I can't say that. Dororo caught me with its first season opening. I mean, the first half of its opening song.

38:54Nerd: I don't know. I watch so many anime that I tend to lose track of what opening I like. I do know all the time though. I do enjoy One of my favorite will be Assassination Classroom opening. The first one It's was so catchy. It's like, at first I was like, it's the stupidest opening ever. And then after the second or third episode, you catch yourself singing and doing the stupid dance that they're doing.

39:18Savage: I mean, I can use that because Fairy Tail has had some pretty decent openings. Bleach has some good openings.

39:18KT: Oh, yes. Oh, we love Bleach. Can we talk about Bleach? Yes. Oh, yes. I usually talk to wash all of my clothes if it is a nice product to have by.

39:34Oti: I'm pretty sure bleach

39:43Nerd: we're not talking about that bleach. Bleach.

39:45KT: Bleach. Bleach.

39:47Savage: Bleach. Bleach. Bleach. Of course. What was I thinking?

39:52KT: We've been reviewing Bleach this whole time, guys. Get yours today. Get your Vegeta Bleach.

40:01Savage: Oh man. Bleach. Bleach. All I have to say is get some attention.

40:06Nerd: I wouldn't mind seeing at the end because are we doing spoilers or? I wouldn't mind seeing their kids having a little interest in it just depends. You read the manga there. Yeah, the kids were there. I wouldn't mind seeing that because I know there's rumors about Bleach coming back in the anime. That's been going on for years and we just haven't seen anything. Yeah, still haven't seen anything about it. But if they do, go ahead and go off with the kids. It'd be interesting to see

40:36Nerd: and definitely learn from the Boruto mistake about the go with kids because I want to see how Renji and Rukia daughter reacts to Ichigo and Orihime's son and see what type of adventure they'll get into or something. I thought each one had a daughter in manga.

40:55KT: Rukia was the kuri den of Bleach.

40:59Nerd: Yeah, sure. I honestly thought and I'm not I probably was I know I'm not the only one. I thought Rukia and Ichigo was gonna get together the way it started out. Nah, I'm glad that Ichigo I had too many options. I mean, no, I prefer him with Orihime now, but in the beginning, before they really started focusing on Orihime like that, I just thought Yeah.

41:21KT: And if we ignore the fact that she's gorgeous and she's beautiful, that was fucking creepy when she sneaked into his bed to kiss him.

41:25Nerd: You know, it it was, but if it was her, I'll I'll allow it. I'll allow it.

41:34Oti: Ichigo did the same thing. There will be some uproar.

41:37Nerd: I'll be like, oh my gosh. How could you do that? You know, a whole lot of people be complaining, but you know. At least give him some boobage as you're leaning over. Come on now.

41:47KT: Orihime, if you're real, I'll send you my address. Just hit me up. She might not be real, but I'm sure you can get a body pillow or a dog. Oh.

41:56Nerd: We did say otaku. That that's the term. Right? Yeah. And there's some very people that like that, but let me stop. My girlfriend will kill me. I'm like, oh, you guys can find another woman?

42:08KT: But it was it it's also another rich sort of anime because they said Arrancars, and I'm like, babe, I think that's Spanish. Oh, yeah. That entire Arrancars thing was happening They through had such a vast number four, he was he was kick ass. We like it.

42:22Nerd: Which one was that one? Is that you the one with the slur with you?

42:27Nerd: No. Well, I think Ulquiorra was number was was Ulquiorra number four? Was it number four the one with the black hair? Yeah. The one that was really getting Ichigo to push himself? I'm pretty sure he was number four. Yeah. I think that was Ulquiorra. I I gotta admit, he's more Or than Grimmjow, you're thinking. Hey. Grimmjow was great. Yeah. Grimmjow was was I'm so mad when he died. Yeah. I'm like, damn. They could at least kept him alive. Didn't honestly, I didn't feel like all of them were truly bad. Number four, I think the I think he was number four. Yeah. He wasn't a bad guy to me. I didn't feel like it. Honestly, I still put

42:57Savage: Ulquiorra over Grimmjow. Ulquiorra was just the Of course, was stronger. I I felt like I think he was stronger. No. I don't even tell my turn to strength. Somebody just in terms of being a badass character. Whoopi ever had it.

43:08KT: But the whole Soul Society, like, all of all of them, all of the lieutenants, they were amazing. Yeah. My my playboy my playboy with his, like, pink kimono. I fucking loved him. We didn't get to see his Oh, saw him at the door. The really pretty

43:08Savage: Oh, you mean his bankai?

43:08KT: They've only showed us

43:08Savage: His bankai. Yeah.

43:27Savage: Yeah. We never got to see it. He was stopped before he could do his bankai. Yeah. Because he was like, yeah, man, you're gonna kill everybody. We need you to calm down with that.

43:35Nerd: And my favorite captain was Toshiro. He's a fan fave. Like, if he had his own anime, I'll watch it.

43:43KT: The problem he had was he kept bringing out his bankai every time. Is kinda sad.

43:50KT: Like, bro, you can't I'm just not on the front bankai.

43:54Nerd: It just show he's serious.

43:56Savage: And he was moving people behind, though. Kenpachi. No. It was all about Kenpachi Zaraki. He didn't even need a bankai. He didn't even need shikai. A He's like, I'm pretty cool here and just kill everybody and call him

43:56KT: He was good value. He was definitely he could have his own. He could have his own show as well. Yeah.

44:16Savage: What's my Titties. Titties. That's all I needed to hear. She said that no. But as soon as she said that, was like, oh, okay. Yeah. Remember that rings a bell. Titties. Yeah.

44:29KT: All of the sleeper agents are awake now. I liked her. I thought she was solid and her relationship with Gin was such a beautiful one. And it was one of those like, it's touching moments where you're like, what the fuck? Like, he was kind of good the whole time. Yeah.

44:44Nerd: He's like, damn. I mean, he had to pay for his sins though, you know, in the end. I mean, he was paying for those sins, not by his choice.

44:52KT: And you know what? Like, universally, but even talking in the world of Bleach, there's something about the way that anime's set up where you can have someone that's really, really super evil, but then I don't know if it's something in the animation or in the music, but then you can kind of accept them as like a good guy. And that happens quite a lot, like that sort of dynamic. Right?

45:10Savage: I mean, it usually depends on how they go about their motives. Like, Aizen, he was just a bad guy throw on dude. I really didn't care for him. But again, I understood what he was trying to do. I was like, I had to give him the pass.

45:25KT: Like the relatable sort of villain.

45:29Savage: Yeah. I mean, was no Thanos, but he was a good villain.

45:32Nerd: I don't think nobody would be a Thanos, you know. Thanos is the only villain I know that people, like, You know what? He wasn't that bad.

45:40Savage: She wasn't that bad. I mean, his intentions were were good.

45:44KT: Well placed, I guess. And there was a shopkeeper, the one with the bucket hat. I liked him too. Oh. Oh.

45:50Savage: What's his name? Stop with the kid. I know. Urahara?

45:53KT: Urahara. Yes.

45:55Savage: Urahara. Kisuke Urahara. That man was too funny. And here in his background, it was like, yo, he got he really got fucked over in his background story.

46:03Nerd: Right. Oh, I actually like Yoruichi. She's the first to me, I think she's the first woman of color that I saw in anime. I don't know what is her race, but you know, because her skin is dark, I just automatically Oh, mean Yeah, I think she was the kitty cat. Yeah, the kitty cat one. Yeah. She was my moving crush.

46:23Savage: Was special, bro. She always teased Ichigo, That stuff used to kill me.

46:30Nerd: Look, can you blame her? Ichigo just didn't get it. I'm like, Ichigo. Literally. You all know what's going on. You just acting a little slow. I like Kon, the little stuffed animal. He was like, Oh, love Kon. Yeah.

46:47Savage: Kon and I had relationship. I love him at some points, other times. I'm like, would you just burn for your sins?

46:51KT: I was trying to, oh wow. I was trying figure out what,

46:56KT: like, what was he like? Oh, he was a Soul Reaper?

46:56Nerd: No, he was a modified soul. He was a fake

47:03KT: Yeah. Oh, okay. Alright. But that they had a nice little song, like the happy people song that they played at the end of, like, one of the sagas. That was a nice song. I like that.

47:12Nerd: I that song.

47:14Savage: Out of most enemies, I gotta I can't I gotta I gotta give it to Bleach for, best battle music in something like

47:20KT: Yeah. And when when Ichigo, like, when Ichigo became that skull, that was a really good, like, sort of progression and development as well.

47:29Savage: Yeah. That's true. She he just he just becomes god by the end of the series.

47:33Nerd: It's like, wait, there's more.

47:35Savage: You thought that was my final form? Not today.

47:38Nerd: Yo, I do have to admit though, Bleach had one of the best, like in the first season, well, after the battle of Aizen, like when he went that final bankai mode, like I don't think nothing could top that final form. It sucked that he lost his own entire power and you only got to see it once. I would love to see it again, but man, I like the whole black hair, Ichigo with long wrapped up in bandage look.

48:05Savage: And

48:08KT: we liked his Zanpakuto. He was cool as well. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Zangetsu.

48:15Savage: Actually, I liked his hollow form, the hollow side of him too, the hollow personality. That guy had me dying all the time.

48:23Nerd: So did you guys feel like Bleach should have ended after the Aizen arc or should have just kept

48:27Savage: Nah. I mean, not with what some of the stories they did, but the ending story, where they were in the manga, oh, that arc blows the Aizen arc out of the water.

48:27Nerd: Yeah. Oh, I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah, that arc is beautiful, man. So much power.

48:27Oti: Yeah. I'm just waiting for a new season of Hunter x Hunter. My God. He's so good. I just want his so good. I want to spin off with Hisoka.

48:54Nerd: Hey, that series was good. Remember watching it, like, I remember hearing about it and I was like, you know what, let me go ahead and give it a try. Now I'm hooked. I'm like, man, this series really that now if we're talking about underrated, that series underrated.

49:09Savage: I bet yeah. Yeah. I would I definitely agree. They the hunger and something does not get recognition that it deserves.

49:15KT: None. Nice. Well, let's let's let's start to wrap it up. And we appreciate you guys taking the time to get here. There's two things that I I do wanna capture off. Dubs and subs, which we'll go into right now. And then we have, like, a little segment called For Your Reference. So let's talk about dubs and subs because I feel like I'm not sure about you, Otaku, but I feel like Anime Nerd, you're kind of okay with dubs.

49:42Savage: Yeah. I am. It depends. Like, Dragon Ball Z sub, it can burn. Dub, I love it. It just depends on the anime.

49:50KT: Interesting.

49:50Nerd: The way I look at dub is this actually like people who don't want to take the time and like read it sub and No, I'm saying it's like And the way I look at it is, hey, look, as long as the culture of anime grows, get it how you get it. So if you like it, hearing it in

50:09Nerd: then go ahead and hear it dub. I know certain shows I prefer hearing it dub and stuff. It's just depend on what I start off with. Like, love Code Geass in dub because that's the very first thing I heard was in dub for Code Geass. And then when I tried to hear it sub, it was like, it don't have that same feel. So it's whatever I truly hear first.

50:28Savage: It just depends because like, was it No Game No Life? I heard it in sub first, but I did watch the dub anyway. And, you know, for both, I I didn't mind either. But it's just for some, I definitely prefer the sub over the dub, like Mhmm. Attack on Titan. I hate the dub version of Attack on Titan so much. Yeah. That's because Eren's voice is so annoying. Yeah. It's just it's just so bad.

50:53Savage: It's just, like yeah. Like, it just it really just depends on the anime, to be honest. I don't have a a preference to say.

51:01Nerd: Yeah. I mean, know I catch myself doing it a couple of times. I will watch all of it sub and then go back dub and see what they changed. And I ain't gonna lie, they do kind of change a lot of some of the stuff out of context, which changed the whole Meaning. Yeah, the meaning of it, which I don't like that they do that. I'm like, stop trying to change it. Like I remember when My Hero Academia, the movie came out, I watched it sub and they said something about, what's his name?

51:32Nerd: Hot, Half Hot, Half Cold. Now his name slipped my mind. Yeah, Todoroki. And like in Japan they say something about, Oh, ice, half ice, half cold bastard. But then when I heard it in English, he called him Icy Hot. I'm like, I guess. I mean, it's funny because it's like, okay, we know what Icy Hot is, but at the same time, it's just it made me thought like, Well, damn, what else have they been changing this whole entire time that I didn't realize?

52:00Savage: Know, you really don't want if you've been watching Dragon Ball Super and the sub, you do not want to see the dub because they changed dub. Like, in the dub version, they changed the Ultra Instinct to Autonomous Ultra Instinct. I was like, okay, that was a not so needed bonus feature to the name, but cool.

52:00Nerd: Wait. So they changed the I didn't watch Dragon Ball Super dub.

52:00Savage: Yeah. The dub changed the name to Autonomous Ultra Instinct. So that's the official name for the dub version instead of just Ultra Instinct. I know why I'm about to go, going to Texas, go talk to Funimation because that's ridiculous. Leave it ultra

52:32Nerd: it's autonomous? What?

52:35KT: I'm sorry, guys. I'm definitely straining away. I think we're we're quite different. We just can't handle dubs. Like, now that we've moved past accepting the dubs growing up, like, with the more lighter sort of, you know, Dragon Ball, if you wanna call it, Sailor Moon, Pokemon, like Mhmm. We've kind of graduated into and, you know, you can be pretentious about it if you want and say, you need to experience blah blah blah. But it's not even really that. Like, I feel like Japanese voice acting has so much depth. So why would you wanna listen to something that's more flat?

53:06Savage: Yeah. Again, it does depend on the anime though, and truly does, because I tried to like because I was getting impatient with the way Prison School was releasing when it first came out, because I wanted to watch the dub, because I found the dub to be okay, as far as Japanese comedies go, the dub is always better in my opinion. Yeah.

53:28KT: Based on what you're saying, you weren't really paying attention to the words of Prison School, were you?

53:34Savage: Oh, no. I was. No. You have to pay attention to every word because the words are what get you laughing. So then I switched over to the sub mid season because I wanted to just finish it. And it wasn't bad. It's just that for the comedy aspect of it, the American voices were so much funnier.

53:50Nerd: I feel like comedy anime is one of those type of because it kinda since they've changed and paraphrased, it's probably a lot better in English. That's just to me in a way. But if it's like a serious slice of life, I'd rather watch it in Japanese.

53:50Oti: Yep. Well, I guess so. Because growing up, we only had one option, which was dub. Mhmm. And then when I I told you, Samurai X, when I watched it in sub,

54:15Oti: it was just completely different from what I remembered. The intensity was just that much heightened.

54:22Savage: Yeah. Because they because and when usually, when anime comes to America, they send they water it down the sensory.

54:28KT: Yeah. And we we've had our fair share of, like, dodgy subs as well. I think it was Attack on Titan we were watching, and the sub was like I think it was someone from, like, the South in America because it was like, didn't your thunk it? And I'm like,

54:44KT: I don't think Yeah. Sometimes he gets some weird subs out there. I don't think.

54:50KT: It was like, yeehaw. And I'm like, I don't. I really don't think they're saying that in Attack on Titan. But, yeah, I guess, like you said, if if people can enjoy it and that's how they enjoy it, that's fine. Sometimes if we wanna laugh, we change it to dub so we can cringe and then we go back to the song. It does make it a lot better.

55:09Nerd: Yeah. If you wanna cringe worthy.

55:11Savage: Totally. So would you guys say that that you prefer Death Note in sub or dub? Sub. Oh, sub. Really? No word can only be experienced in sub. Come on now. Oh, I can't say that. Death Note in dub was just amazing to me. That it was too spot on.

55:28KT: I'll have to believe you.

55:28Savage: I I it was too good.

55:28KT: Or you could always just watch the Netflix one.

55:34Savage: No. There's no doubt it. Was joke right there, anime man.

55:39KT: You need to accept all of it. Take it all.

55:43Nerd: That one was

55:45Savage: look. It was amazing. Was the best comic I ever seen.

55:48Nerd: It was it's up there with, you know, greatest anime filled adaptation with Dragon Ball Evolution, ladies and gentlemen.

55:56Savage: Right. Actually, at least it was more accurate because Ryuk at least stayed almost accurate in his character. Oh my god. But shout out to Bleach. Bleacher's one isn't that bad.

56:05Nerd: It wasn't? I didn't even watch it. No, actually actually enjoyed that one. Yeah.

56:10Savage: I couldn't do it. I hated that animation for the for the Transmutations.

56:17Nerd: I don't yeah.

56:19KT: Okay. Cool. So hopefully, you guys enjoyed it. We definitely had a good time talking about anime. Let's finish off in a segment we call For Your Reference. So this is like a general sort of anime, but usually in our episodes, you know, if you enjoy anime, what is I think we'll do it a bit different. So, usually, we just say, this is something you should check out. Let's so you can you can recommend two. Right? Alright. Okay. So it'll be if you're first starting anime, this is what you should try or just something really obscure that you think is good and doesn't get enough attention. So two references. Who wants to go first? Anime Nerd. I'll give it to you. Oh, Savage Otaku.

56:50Nerd: Look. I I gotta look through my list.

56:50Savage: Oh, okay. Well, I guess I'll try again. Alright. Anime number one, my personal favorite anime to this very day, No Game No Life. It did not get the hype and respect that it deserves because it needs a season two, and everyone who's watched that anime knows that it needs a season two. Yes. It really does. Like, that if you're a gamer, a nerd, or you just are down for the culture, this anime is one devil.

57:26Savage: Oh my gosh. It's just too top tier. Very great. And something that everyone should watch? Mhmm. And like, if you just enjoy anime in general, and you like the fantasy world aspect of everything, it is for you.

57:26KT: Now, anime? That's probably gonna be a hard one. I know you got it. Come on.

57:26Savage: I mean, honestly, it because it it this one, it it kinda varies on your taste. Because I would say Dororo is very amazing, but it it it really does depend on your taste whether you would get into that or not.

58:01Savage: But if you like action anime, each episode, you you would would get your feel of just straight action. The story's amazing. Action's amazing. Animation quality is amazing. Dororo is all around a 10 out of 10 anime.

58:13Nerd: Nice. Very nice. Okay. So it's my turn?

58:17Savage: Yes. Yes, sir.

58:19Nerd: All right. So anime, if you want to get into it, I would say Code Geass. I love that. Love that anime. The anime is like, it's real dark. It's real like you fall in love with the character Lelouch and how smart he is. I want to say like truly dark, but it show how fucked up anime can be at times. So I will definitely I'm sucker for mechas. So they got mechas in it. And this is the only solely focused on the mechas, it's solely focused on how smart the character is. And then my

58:57Nerd: last one that I will recommend is Erased. That Now that will get you

58:57KT: That's on our list.

59:04KT: And we haven't gotten to it.

59:08Nerd: Look, when you guys watch it, we'll do a podcast.

59:08KT: Oh, yeah, please. Yeah.

59:11KT: Yes. Yeah. Erased is a beautiful one. Minor ones that I actually don't know how popular they are, but we really enjoyed them. And they're quite short as well. Akame ga Kill! Mhmm. Really good. Enjoyed that. And also Monster. Otaku, are you familiar with Monster?

59:30Savage: No. Wait, you mean Tenma? Tenma?

59:36KT: He's like oh, so essentially the anime, it's about 50 episodes and he's a Japanese surgeon that goes to Germany. Germany, yep. And he one night, there is a kid that is about to die, and there's, like, a dignitary or a politician that's about to die as well, and he chooses to save the kid. This isn't a spoiler because it's in the trailer, but he ends up saving the kid, and the kid is actually super evil. So this whole anime follows their back and forth, which is very interesting.

60:08KT: And it's I know I said I like anime as I feel like anime. This you wouldn't even classify it as an anime because it's just a good sort of story. But Monster is definitely something I think is worth watching.

60:20Savage: Interesting. I have to give that look up then. I've not heard of that one.

60:25KT: Yay. That was my goal for today. Anime Nerd had to run off before he could plug anything, but we'll put all of the details in the show notes. Otaku, you wanna plug?

60:38Savage: Yes, please.

60:40KT: Yeah. Where can we find you?

60:43Savage: You can find me at my goodness. Sorry. Twitter @SavageOtakuLife, and that's where I'll be for everybody.

60:52KT: Totally. Make sure you subscribe. Quality content. Hopefully, everyone enjoyed this show. We are @ForYourRefPod on Instagram and Twitter. Are you on Apple Podcasts?

61:04Savage: Yes. I am.

61:06KT: Sure you leave a rating and review for Savage Otaku, Anime Nerd, and also your friends at For Your Reference.

61:13Savage: And thank you guys for having me today. It has been a pleasure, and it always will be. Definitely.

61:19KT: The the first few of many, hopefully. Thank you so much, guys. Hopefully, you have a great day, and we'll talk to you soon.

61:26Savage: Have a good one. Alright. See you.